Here's the deal: Defense Shred cuts enemy defense across the board (capped at 90%), while Resistance Shred targets specific damage types with some quirky math once you hit negative values. DEF shred follows a straightforward formula, but RES shred? That's where things get interesting with its three-tier system.
Getting Your Head Around the Basics
Defense Shred - The Universal Damage Booster
Think of Defense (DEF) Shred as your universal key to higher damage numbers. It doesn't care what element you're using - it just makes enemies squishier across the board. The math behind it looks intimidating:(CharacterLevel+100)/((CharacterLevel+100)+(EnemyLevel+100)*(1-DEFReduction%)), but here's what actually matters.
Without any shred, you're basically dealing half damage against same-level enemies. Ouch, right?
Enemy defense scales predictably - it's5*EnemyLevel+500. So those Level 90 Abyss monsters you're fighting? They're packing 950 defense. That's... substantial.
Now here's something crucial that took the community way too long to figure out: DEF shred caps at 90%. Hard stop. Players tested this extensively with Lisa (A4), Razor (C4), Klee (C2), and Ayaka (C4) stacked together, and the game just refuses to let you completely delete enemy defense. Smart design choice, honestly.
Resistance Shred - The Specialist's Tool
Resistance (RES) Shred is where Genshin's damage calculations get genuinely weird. It operates on this three-tier system that behaves completely differently depending on where you land:
Below 0%:
1-(RES/2)- effectiveness gets halved (this trips up so many players)0% to 75%:
1-RES- works exactly like you'd expect75% and above:
1/(1+4*RES)- diminishing returns kick in hard
The negative resistance thing is particularly counterintuitive. More isn't always better once you push enemies into negative territory.
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The Math That Actually Matters
Breaking Down Defense Shred
Let's run some real numbers. Level 90 character vs Level 90 enemy with 30% DEF shred:
Without shred:190/(190+950)=0.167 You're dealing 16.7% of your theoretical damage. Brutal.
With 30% DEF shred:190/(190+665)=0.222 Now you're at 22.2%. Better!
The improvement:0.222/0.167=1.33 That's a solid 33% damage increa
se.
Want to stack sources? Lisa's A4 (15%) + Klee's C2 (23%) + Razor's C4 (15%) gives you 53% total reduction. Still well under that 90% cap, so you're good to go.
Resistance Shred Gets Complicated
Superconduct is probably the most accessible RES shred in the game (-40% Physical RES), so let's see how it performs:
Against 10% Physical RES enemy:
Final RES becomes -30%
Damage multiplier:
1-(-0.30/2)=1.15Original was:
1-0.10=0.90You get 27.8% more damage
Against -20% Physical RES enemy (yes, some enemies have negative base resistance):
Final RES drops to -60%
New multiplier:
1-(-0.60/2)=1.30Original:
1-(-0.20/2)=1.10Only 18.2% improvement
See how diminishing returns work in negative territory? That's the halving effect in action.
How Everything Stacks Together
The Stacking Game
Multiple DEF shred sources just add up until you hit that 90% wall. Pretty straightforward. Nahida's C2 (30%) plus Lisa's A4 (15%) equals 45% total reduction. RES shred works the same way for identical damage types.
Here's a realistic Razor Physical team setup:
Superconduct: -40% Physical RES
Razor C4: -15% DEF
Zhongli shield: -20% universal RES
Against a 10% Physical RES enemy, you end up with -50% final resistance (1.25x Physical damage multiplier) plus that DEF improvement. Combined effect? Roughly 48% total damage increase.
Not bad for a 4-star carry, honestly.
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Defense Shred: Who's Got It
The DEF Shred All-Stars
Razor C4: 15% for 7 seconds when his E connects
Klee C2: 23% for 10 seconds from those bouncing mines (highest single source!)
Lisa A4: 15% for 10 seconds from her burst (and she's free!)
Ayaka C4: 30% for 6 seconds from burst damage
Nahida C2: 30% for 8 seconds against Dendro reaction targets
Nahida C2 and Ayaka C4 pack the biggest punch, but you're looking at serious constellation investment. Lisa remains the most accessible option - never underestimate the starter characters.
Resistance Shred: The Specialists
Universal vs Element-Specific Options
Zhongli's Jade Shield is the gold standard: 20% universal RES reduction to everything while the shield's up and you're close enough to enemies. Works with all seven elements plus Physical. The man's a walking debuff machine.
Viridescent Venerer Set is the element-specific powerhouse: 40% RES shred for 10 seconds when your Anemo character Swir
ls. Targets whatever element got Swirled, which is why Kazuha, Venti, and Sucrose are such valuable supports.
Superconduct (Cryo + Electro) gives 40% Physical RES reduction for 12 seconds. Effectiveness varies wildly though - 18.2% damage boost against enemies with -20% base RES, but 35-40% against those with 30% base RES.
When to Use What
Reading the Room (and the Enemy)
High-level Spiral Abyss enemies (Level 95+) have absolutely massive defense values, making DEF shred increasingly valuable due to how defense scaling works. But enemies with sky-high elemental resistance? That's RES shred territory. Taking a Hypostasis from 70% resistance down to 30% gives you a 2.70x damage multiplier improvement.
Quick comparison:
30% DEF shred vs Level 90 enemy: ~33% damage increase
40% Elemental RES shred vs 10% base RES: ~36% damage increase
40% Elemental RES shred vs 50% base RES: ~100% damage increase
Multi-wave content favors DEF shred since it helps against everything. Single-target boss fights let you optimize for specific elements.
Advanced Team Building
Layering Your Buffs
The real magic happens when you stack multiple sources for multiplicative benefits. A full Zhongli + Anemo + Superconduct setup gets you:
Universal 20% RES shred (Zhongli)
40% Physical RES shred (Superconduct)
40% Elemental RES shred (VV, element-specific)
Plus whatever DEF shred your DPS brings
National team variations can integrate DEF shred through smart character choices while keeping those reaction multipliers. Hypercarry teams like Ayaka freeze maximize element-specific RES shred through VV support while adding universal coverage via Zhongli.
It's all about finding the right balance for your specific team and content.
Don't Make These Mistakes
Common Pitfalls
Players constantly misunderstand how RES shred works below 0%. That halving effect means pushing enemies deep into negative resistance gives you way less value than you'd expect. With DEF shred, people often ignore the 90% cap and waste investment on redundant sources.
Manual calculations? They're usually wrong. Players use incorrect RES formulas or forget about level differences in DEF calculations.
Smart optimization means knowing your enemies: figure out their base DEF/RES values, calculate what your available sources actually provide, and prioritize consistent uptime over peak numbers. A 20% buff that's always active beats a 40% buff that's only up half the time.
The Questions Everyone Asks
What's the actual difference between Defense Shred and Resistance Shred? Defense Shred cuts enemy defense universally using that DEF multiplier formula (90% cap). Resistance Shred targets specific damage types with a three-tier system where effectiveness gets halved below 0% resistance.
How do they work together? They're separate multiplicative factors. Multiple DEF sources add until the 90% cap, RES sources combine additively for the same damage type. When you use both, the effects multiply together for exponentially better damage.
Which one's actually better? DEF shred gives universal benefit for mixed teams. RES shred offers higher peak effectiveness against high-resistance enemies but only affects specific damage types. Against Level 90+ enemies, DEF shred usually provides more consistent value.
Who can provide Defense Shred? Lisa A4 (15%, 10s), Razor C4 (15%, 7s), Klee C2 (23%, 10s), Ayaka C4 (30%, 6s), Nahida C2 (30%, 8s with Dendro reactions). They stack additively up to that 90% cap.
What about Resistance Shred sources? Zhongli shield (20% universal), Viridescent Venerer set (40% elemental via Anemo), Superconduct (40% Physical), plus various character-specific abilities. Zhongli's the only universal option, VV offers the highest single-element reduction.
How much damage increase are we talking about? Against Level 90 enemies, 30% DEF shred typically provides 25-35% damage increase. 40% RES shred gives ~36% against 10% base resistance, ~100% against 50% base resistance. Combine both and you're looking at exponentially greater benefits.